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Wednesday, January 9, 2013

This Is How a Secret Gun Provision Made its Way Into Obamacare Legislation

The Blaze: There’s a widely-unknown provision in the Affordable Care Act (also known as Obamacare) — legislative wording that is capturing attention in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Pushed by the National Rifle Association (NRA), a newly-noticed regulation that was placed deep within the bill back in 2010, among other things, bans doctors from documenting patients’ answers to questions that focus upon guns.

Obamacare Legislation Includes Secret Gun Rights Provision | Harry Reid, Affordable Care Act

The Washington Post first reported on Dec. 30 about the presence of this controversial wording. Under a section with the headline “Protection of Second Amendment Gun Rights,” the NRA-advocated wording is nestled deep within the law. The Post called the inclusion, “a largely overlooked but significant challenge to a movement in American medicine to treat firearms as a matter of public health.”

As the outlet also noted, it was in the final stretch of the debate over Obama’s health care legislation that the NRA successfully pushed to insert this language. Below, see the portions of the Affordable Care Act that include mentions of firearms and the parameters through which doctors must operate in questioning patients (read the entire health care bill here):

Obamacare Legislation Includes Secret Gun Rights Provision | Harry Reid, Affordable Care Act

 Obamacare Legislation Includes Secret Gun Rights Provision | Harry Reid, Affordable Care ActOn Tuesday, CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta spoke on-air with “Situation Room” host Wolf Blitzer. The two discussed how the gun provision made its way into health care legislation, while also explaining portions of the text for viewers.

Gupta noted that the initiative to have the wording included during the contentious health care debate was rooted in the NRA’s stance that patients should not be penalized or discriminated against for owning firearms. As can be seen from the above portion of the legislation, while doctors are not banned from asking about guns, they are forbidden from documenting the information and using it for research purposes.

Watch Gupta explain the additive language HERE:

In addition to gun-owner information and how it must be handled by doctors, the text also notes that the law cannot be used to keep and maintain records of individuals’ firearm possession, nor can it be used to track ammunition. Additionally, the language deals with the price of health care coverage, noting that cost cannot be impacted by the possession or ownership of guns, the Post also reported.

Following the tragedy at Sandy Hook, the presence of this provision has gained some press, with select politicians and medical groups taking a stand against it. Advocates are worried that research and medical care could suffer as a result of the wording; some are even pushing the Obama administration to consider changes to the text in light of recent events and an impending battle over new gun control legislation.

The Post has more about the ongoing battle between the NRA and physicians and advocates who stand opposed to the language inserted into the Affordable Care legislation:

NRA officials say they requested the provision out of concern that insurance companies could use such data to raise premiums on gun owners. The measure’s supporters in the Senate say they did not intend to interfere with the work of doctors or researchers.

But physician groups and researchers see the provision as part of a decades-long strategy by the gun lobby to choke off federal support for studies of firearms violence.

The research restrictions began in the 1990s, when the NRA urged Congress to cut funding for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s division that studied gun violence. In 1996, Congress sharply limited the agency’s ability to fund that type of research.

This is extremely important at this time with the shocker information recently released that there is now a 'Vaccine' that prevents gun violence and the implications of the use of that vaccine in today’s control frenzy climate coming from the White House and progressive liberals in general!

 

Obamacare Legislation Includes Secret Gun Rights Provision | Harry Reid, Affordable Care Act

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi take part in a joint Senate and House session to count of the Electoral College votes for the 2012 presidential election at the Capitol Hill in Washington on January 4, 2013. US President Barack Obama was officially declared the winner of 2012 presidential election after the counting session– a quaint formality, perhaps, but constitutionally required. Credit: AFP/Getty Images

Just as interesting as the debate over the provision, itself, is the notion that it was Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), an NRA-supporter, who added the wording to the bill back in 2010. While a spokesperson for Reid told the Post that the leader never spoke with the NRA about the wording and that he did not believe that “it changed gun laws in any way,” that hasn’t stopped critics from wondering why Reid so staunchly supported the measure.

The language was purportedly added to stem off criticism from the NRA that could have railroaded, delayed or prevented the controversial health care bill from passing. Also, the wording was placed deep within the bill in an effort to convince people not to embrace so-called conspiracy theories about Obamacare — mainly that the legislation would be used to keep and maintain a massive gun-ownership database. Once the language was added, the NRA reportedly remained neutral regarding passage of the law.

While Reid has been a gun rights advocate for quite some time, the politician may be having a change of heart in the wake of recent shootings and controversy surrounding this language. An adviser who spoke off-the-record, recently told CNN that the senator is “in a different place than he was in 2010″ when it comes to firearms.

Cross-Posted at Ask Marion

Related:

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All NYC Gun Owners Posted Online

Former FBI Informant Says: Obama Will Destroy America Once He Has All The Guns… as Details of False Flag and Conspiracy in Connecticut Shooting Appear

Pravda tells America: Keep your guns

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Friday, January 22, 2010

" DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE BACK-PEDDLING, AND SUDDEN RETREAT ... IT'S A RED HERRING ... WATCH THE OTHER HAND ...

" DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE BACK-PEDDLING, AND SUDDEN RETREAT ... IT'S A RED HERRING ... WATCH THE OTHER HAND ...

Thursday, January 21, 2010
National Review On-Line
Paul Ryan on Reconciliation [Robert Costa]

Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), the ranking member of the House Budget Committee, tells National Review Online that House Democrats are planning to use the budget-reconciliation process in order to pass Obamacare. “They’re meeting with each other THIS WEEKEND to pursue it,” says Ryan. “I’ve spoken with many Democrats and the message is this:" They’re not ready to give up. They’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment, and they aren’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny. They’ll look at every option and spend the next four or five days figuring it out.”

If the Democrats pass a health-care bill through reconciliation, it means they would need only 51 votes in the Senate for final passage. To start the process, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) would need to bring a new health-care bill to the House Budget Committee with reconciliation instructions, with the Senate doing the same. “They’d have to go back to the beginning of the process,” says Ryan. “They’d need to affix reconciliation instructions to a new bill.” Doing so, he says, wouldn’t be too hard. “There’s nothing we can do to stop this from a technical standpoint, since all they need is a simple majority vote and our ratio on the committee is terrible. What [Republicans] can do on the Budget Committee is pass resolutions for the Rules Committee to insist on certain changes in the bill and create a ‘vote-a-rama’ atmosphere.”

If reconciliation happens, Ryan predicts that the Democrats will still have a hard time pulling it off. “There are Blue Dog Democrats out there who are more survivalist than ideologues. One or two switches could be a game changer. The question is whether Democrats will continue to follow Pelosi off the cliff. After Massachusetts, the Democrats are quickly realizing that even if the president comes in to stump, and you get all the union support you need, it’s still not enough to get you elected.”

© National Review Online 2010. All Rights Reserved

**Time go get back on the phones, faxes and emails too all the house members and the Senate… Tell them “NO” on ObamaCare and NO on reconciliation and that head are going to roll if they even think about it!! Start with your own and then lets go through the list…

Congress.org - Elected Officials

**Let us also insist that Scott Brown needs to be seated ASAP!!!!

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ObamaCare Alive And Well...?? Let Us Not Put It Past Them!

· Posted by Ask Marion on January 22, 2010 at 4:15pm

I just received this from 3 reliable sources... AmeriPac, ConservativeActionAlerts, and a friend of mine in the know... Let us not take Nancy Pelosi at her word (which is pretty worthless) from yesterday or get comfortable that we have won or that the Dems have come to their senses...

I think we would be smart to all do another round or faxes, calls and emails!!

ObamaCare Alive And Well…

Pelosi - "Regardless of MA, It Will Happen"

ALERT: Obama the Democrats in Congress and the extreme liberal left are out of touch, blaming voters and everyone else as Brown goes to Town they are still conspiring in the dark corners behind closed doors in Washington to push through ObamaCare.
Socialized Health Care Can STILL Be Stopped -

Select Here to Tell Congress to VOTE NO on ObamaCare:

SEND YOUR FAXES NOW! and of course we all have our lists to fax, call and email directly

below is a web site that will send fax for you about $20 at bottom I will include phone and fax numbers for the three AZ if you want to make the calls yourselves

https://secure.conservativedonations.com/ameripac_obamacare4/?a=3550

We need your continued help more than ever as Socialized Health Care MUST STILL Be Stopped.

Pelosi said "Regardless of Massachusetts, it will happen" and Democrats are continuing to work to reconcile the House and Senate ObamaCare bills and are proceeding to force a through a process called "budget reconciliation," where they only need 51 votes to pass a bill, not 60.

Obama, Reid and Pelosi are still circling and have vowed to continue working on passing a scaled down ObamaCare bill by picking America apart with new taxes, increased healthcare costs and insurance premiums by hiding ObamaCare in future spending bills.

The Only Poll That Counts - The Results Of The MA Special Election
The extreme liberal left believes that ObamaCare has not gone far enough and have produced an internal poll of Massachusetts voters (is it really true?) that shows of the Obama voters who cast a ballot for Brown, nearly half (49%) support the Senate bill or think it does not go far enough. (Liars can figure but figures do not lie as dangerously out of touch extreme left Liberals are still pushing ObamaCare)

Trusted Gallup polls tell the truth and 72% say Brown's election reflects many Americans' frustrations, which the president and members of Congress should pay attention to and Americans widely agree that the election result has national political implications.

In the wake of Republican Scott Brown's victory in Tuesday's U.S. Senate election in Massachusetts, the majority of Americans (55%) favor Congress' putting the brakes on ObamaCare.

Obama Blames "Last Eight Years" for Rejection of His Brand of Change

the above was one part of a blog on AAM. below is another part from another blog about Dick Morris's e-mail

I'm on Dick Morris's email list...here's the latest! Who do we go after? This list!

·Posted by Babs on January 22, 2010 at 7:00pm

DEFEATING OBAMACARE: THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published on DickMorris.com on January 22, 2010

Now is the time to finish off the prospects of Obamacare with the Democrats reeling from the defeat in Massachusetts.

We must not trust them. The apparent reluctance of the House Democrats to pass the Senate version will evaporate once Obama puts his weight behind the bill and Pelosi starts to twist arms. Moderate Democrats cannot be counted upon.

Who's to Blame for America's Economic Crisis – Vote Here! So we need to target Democrats in swing districts who voted for the health care legislation in its first go-round in the House and convince them of the error of their ways. As the Republican floor leader in the 60s Senator Everett Dirksen once said "when they feel the heat, they see the light."

Here is a list of twenty-three Democrats who voted for Obamacare and who are vulnerable in 2010. Its time to turn up the heat on them:

Harry Mitchell = Arizona 5

Gabrielle Giffords = Arizona 8

Alan Grayson = Fla 8

Mark Schaue

MichCarol Shea-Porter = NH 1

Mike Arcuri = NY 24

Mary Jo Kilroy = Ohio 15

Kathy Dahlkemper = Pa 3

Christopher Carney = Pa 10

Tom Perriello = Va 5

Ann Kirkpatrick = Arizona 1

Baron Hill = Indiana 9

Dina Titus = Nevada 3

John Hall = NY 19

Stephen Driehaus = Ohio 1
Paul Kanjorsky = Pa 11

Dan Maffei = NY 25

Allan Mollohan = W Va

Nick Rahall = W Va

Steve Kagen = Wisc

Marion Berry = Arkansas

John Spratt = Georgia

Zack Space = Ohio 18

These are the key votes. If we can create a groundswell among their voters, demanding that they retreat from their position of forcing socialized medicine and Medicare cuts on the country, we can win.

Nancy Pelosi's strategy is to delay and let the impact of the Brown win in Massachusetts be blunted by time. Meanwhile, she will propose amendments to the Senate bill and submit her proposed changes to the upper chamber. Harry Reid will tell her that such a bill is dead on arrival but she will demand a vote. When the measure is rejected (or fails of closure), she will go back to her caucus and say, "I tried, but the Senate would not accept any of our amendments."

Then the question is: What happens then? If we have prepared the way by influencing the districts of the marginal members who voted for the bill, we can assure that the centrist Democrats do not support the new legislation. We can peel away some of the 220 votes (with 215 against) by which the bill passed the House.

Harry Mitchell phone= 202-225-2190 fax= 202-225-3263

Gabrielle Gifford phone=202-225-2542 fax= 202-225-0375

Ann Kirkpatrick phone- 202-225-2315 fax 202=226-9739

add ons

Rsul Grijalva phone=202-225-2435 fax=202-225-1541

Ed Pastor phone=202-225-4065 fax = 202-22?-1652