Wednesday, December 7, 2011

"People 70 and over will not be treated under Obamacare… and you thought DEATH PANELS were gone"– Updated

Mark Levin received a phone call Tuesday night from a brain surgeon who had just been to Washington DC, learning about the requirements the government has in place with the Obama Health Care Plan. This is a must read. The surgeon says that if you are over 70, you will get “comfort care,” and that surgery can be performed “if” the government panel deems it necessary. It also reveals that the government language used to describe patients is “units.”

If you are over 70 and have a stroke, you can and will be denied surgery. The documents referred to by the caller are not public yet.

Here is the youtube of that call, posted by warrenherrick.

A transcription of that phone call appeared on Free Republic, posted by ‘Future Useless Eater.’ Thank you, FUE.


Caller: I heard you talking earlier about the government not knowing how to make pencils, and then you talked about brain surgeons, and I happen to be a brain surgeon, so I found your topic very interesting. And actually, I just returned from Washington DC, where we were reading over what the Obama Health Care Plan would be for advanced neurosurgery for patients over 70, which we all found quite disturbing.

Because as our population gets older the majority of our patients ARE getting over 70, which requires stroke therapy and aneurysm therapy, and basically what the document stated, was if you’re over 70 and you come in to an emergency room and you’re on government supported care, that you get ‘comfort care’.

Levin: wait an minute… what? what document? what’s the source for this?

Caller: This is the Obama’s new health care plan for advanced neuro-surgical care.

Levin: and who issued this? HHS?

Caller: Yes. And basically, they don’t call them patients, they call them ‘units’ and instead of… they call it ‘ethics panels’ or ‘ethics committees’ which get together and meet, and decide where the money would go for hospitals, and basically, for patients over 70 years, that advanced neuro-surgical care was not generally indicated.

Levin: So its generally going to be denied?

Caller: Yes, absolutely.

Levin: Ok, let me ask you this… is this public…? GO ahead…

Caller: If someone comes in at 70 years of age with a bleed in their brain, I can promise you I’m not going to get a bunch of administrators together on an ethics panel at two in the morning to decide that I’m ok to do surgery.

Levin: Let me ask you this… Is this published somewhere for the general public? In other words, where a pedestrian like me can get ahold of it?

Caller: Not yet, not yet.

Levin: So this was discussed just with your community, of neurosurgeons?

Caller: Yes, exactly. The AANS and CNS, the American Association of NeuroSurgeons and the Congress of NeuroSurgeons, because everybody knows cuts are coming in medicine, in reimbursement, and we’re the most expensive in all the fields of medicine, and we’re the smallest field.
But at two or three or four in the morning, we’re the ones that are in the operating room, and we will have to wait for an ethics panel to convene, and they’re not made up of physicians, they’re made of administrators, to decide whether a patient should receive our care.

Levin: So Sarah Palin was right? We ARE going to have these death panels, aren’t we?

Caller: Oh, Absolutely! I’m German by heritage, and I’ve read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and basically, they dont call them patients, they call them units, and if you’re a unit above a certain age, you get comfort care, instead of advanced neurosurgical intervention.

Levin: Now this… You went to a seminar in Washington D.C?

Caller: Yes, A few of my former partners, two of them have gone to work for… One runs the VA system, and one is head of the Congress of NeuroSurgeons out of DC.

Levin: And this information is based, you’re certain, on representations and information provided by HHS and other government officials?

Caller: Yep.

Levin: And when will the rest of us become aware of it? After the election?

Caller: Ah, Probably. There are so many things that the government keeps under control, that are used in surgery called HUD devices, or Humanitarian Use Devices, that we’re allowed to use now, because they haven’t undergone full FDA approval, and they’re just used in surgery, because people know its the right thing to do.

But the government can step in at any time, like they did two months ago with a device, and said, this device hasn’t met what we want, and there’s no exact criteria, and then they can take it away from us.

Levin: And the people who are telling you what to do, they don’t even know how to make a pencil, do they?

Caller: Exactly, that’s what I’m saying. And we always joke around, “it’s not brain surgery”, but you know, I did nine years after medical school, I’ve been in training ten years, and now I have people who don’t know a THING about what I’m doing, and telling me when I can and cannot operate.

Levin: All right, please keep in contact, will you? I have to go, but this has been a very very cruical call!

Update: This caller confirms that what Obama said to Jane Sturm was exactly what was planned for in Obamacare.

by jenkuznicki @ 10:40 am on November 24, 2011. Filed under Mark Levin Audio


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